Comments on: Apple iPad: Glorified iPod Touch? Still Waiting for the iLap http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/ Recipes for Sound Design Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:34:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: elem http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12794 elem Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:20:58 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12794 i'm genuinely excited at the prospect of a touchscreen mac. too bad that's not what this is. i understand what apple is going for. book-reader, photo-viewer, web-browser, gaming platform, and awkwardly sized PDA. for that, the price-point is not bad, but i was disappointed with this product as soon as i saw the OS boot up. the optional 3G connection is a nice (but expensive) touch. there's no disputing that it's a beautifully designed little box, but it lacks the functionality/openness/expandability that i require from a sound tool. ultimately this device's utility for any sort of sound work or computer music will be decided by the people that design apps for it. (got the iPad SDK yet keston?) honestly i would pay loads if apple just took my macbook pro slapped a multi-touch display on the top of it and called it a day. i could care less how thin and sexy it is. if i could run LIve with my fingers i'd be sold. i think i'll be waiting for the 'iLap' too. i’m genuinely excited at the prospect of a touchscreen mac. too bad that’s not what this is. i understand what apple is going for. book-reader, photo-viewer, web-browser, gaming platform, and awkwardly sized PDA. for that, the price-point is not bad, but i was disappointed with this product as soon as i saw the OS boot up. the optional 3G connection is a nice (but expensive) touch.

there’s no disputing that it’s a beautifully designed little box, but it lacks the functionality/openness/expandability that i require from a sound tool. ultimately this device’s utility for any sort of sound work or computer music will be decided by the people that design apps for it.
(got the iPad SDK yet keston?)

honestly i would pay loads if apple just took my macbook pro slapped a multi-touch display on the top of it and called it a day. i could care less how thin and sexy it is. if i could run LIve with my fingers i’d be sold.

i think i’ll be waiting for the ‘iLap’ too.

]]> By: scott http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12754 scott Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:04:27 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12754 The article title I found by actually typing into google "ipad over glorified iPod?". So I guess I'm not the only one who thinks this. So, I can basically only run games made for the iPod and iPhone? Do I want to carry a $599 iPod in sketchy areas just so I can sit at Starbucks and chat online and watch some dog surfing on youtube? Hell no! 1 ghz is enough to run Reason decently. I'd pay for that alone. Oh, let's not forget that it IS NOT FLASH compatible. In the keynote, hey said it has to be a better browsing experience. I'm sorry but the ONLY time I whip out my iPod (assuming there is public internet access, which since this is not a phone you won't have access to the internet everywhere you go.....) is when there is a heated discussion about how something works and we look it up on the web from the iPod in my living room. If I wanted a web friendly netbook, they better give me free internet access somehow, which is impossible unless your city supports it. What the hell are they thinking? Back to the Flash not included part of the argument. I cannot watch video game trailers on ign because flashplayer is not available for download and there are no talks of including it officially. That rules out about 80% of the websites I visit who still view Flash as their primary resource for incorporating video into their websites. Hell, I work for a company that ONLY uses Flash as their output for video because it's cheap on resources; looks fairly decent; is easy to program into your flash website. Furthermore, what pissed me off the most was that Steve Jobs HIMSELF said we are starting to become a mainly mobile company. So that sweet ass Mac Pro with 8 cores and the ability to expand to 16GB that I paid 4,000 bux for in 2007 is going to be dust in the wind in the coming years. I'm already having terrible support with their Snow Leopard operating system and no help from Apple. I love OS X because I don't get viruses..........yet neither does Linux, and Ubuntu already has more support from vendors than for OS X. I've been a mac owner for 3 years. I LOVE my mac pro and the os x operating system (only 10.5.2 because Maya won't run on SL or 10.5.6 or above((on all models 2007- early 2008 of mac pro) and I'm getting NO support from apple. Looks like my next system will be a self built system that runs Linux because, apparently, shit like the iPad is where Apple is heading............................ "I SAID GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR" -Gene Wilder 'Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory' The article title I found by actually typing into google “ipad over glorified iPod?”. So I guess I’m not the only one who thinks this. So, I can basically only run games made for the iPod and iPhone? Do I want to carry a $599 iPod in sketchy areas just so I can sit at Starbucks and chat online and watch some dog surfing on youtube? Hell no! 1 ghz is enough to run Reason decently. I’d pay for that alone. Oh, let’s not forget that it IS NOT FLASH compatible. In the keynote, hey said it has to be a better browsing experience. I’m sorry but the ONLY time I whip out my iPod (assuming there is public internet access, which since this is not a phone you won’t have access to the internet everywhere you go…..) is when there is a heated discussion about how something works and we look it up on the web from the iPod in my living room. If I wanted a web friendly netbook, they better give me free internet access somehow, which is impossible unless your city supports it. What the hell are they thinking? Back to the Flash not included part of the argument. I cannot watch video game trailers on ign because flashplayer is not available for download and there are no talks of including it officially. That rules out about 80% of the websites I visit who still view Flash as their primary resource for incorporating video into their websites. Hell, I work for a company that ONLY uses Flash as their output for video because it’s cheap on resources; looks fairly decent; is easy to program into your flash website.

Furthermore, what pissed me off the most was that Steve Jobs HIMSELF said we are starting to become a mainly mobile company. So that sweet ass Mac Pro with 8 cores and the ability to expand to 16GB that I paid 4,000 bux for in 2007 is going to be dust in the wind in the coming years. I’m already having terrible support with their Snow Leopard operating system and no help from Apple. I love OS X because I don’t get viruses……….yet neither does Linux, and Ubuntu already has more support from vendors than for OS X.

I’ve been a mac owner for 3 years. I LOVE my mac pro and the os x operating system (only 10.5.2 because Maya won’t run on SL or 10.5.6 or above((on all models 2007- early 2008 of mac pro) and I’m getting NO support from apple. Looks like my next system will be a self built system that runs Linux because, apparently, shit like the iPad is where Apple is heading……………………….

“I SAID GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR”
-Gene Wilder ‘Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory’

]]> By: John Keston http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12728 John Keston Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:13:11 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12728 They certainly do have a knack for making one roll over on one's back, paws in the air in fanboy submission. Hell, I must admit to an unhealthy techno-lust for the iPad. Having become quite fond of TouchOSC, the potential for smooth, fast, accurate, and customized multi-touch control via the device is alluring. However, had the ideals of a multi-touch Mac been realized, the potential would have been exponentially higher. Perhaps this is a stepping stone to the "iLap", as I like to call it. For now it remains a fantasy. They certainly do have a knack for making one roll over on one’s back, paws in the air in fanboy submission. Hell, I must admit to an unhealthy techno-lust for the iPad. Having become quite fond of TouchOSC, the potential for smooth, fast, accurate, and customized multi-touch control via the device is alluring. However, had the ideals of a multi-touch Mac been realized, the potential would have been exponentially higher. Perhaps this is a stepping stone to the “iLap”, as I like to call it. For now it remains a fantasy.

]]> By: aiche http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12725 aiche Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:03:35 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12725 I love your issue #1, on multitouch. I've always thought that Apple's proprietary bent is something to be wary of supporting, and your notion cements it for me in a way I hadn't considered before. Now if they'd just stop making their stuff so glossy and tight, I might stop actually consuming it. I love your issue #1, on multitouch. I’ve always thought that Apple’s proprietary bent is something to be wary of supporting, and your notion cements it for me in a way I hadn’t considered before.

Now if they’d just stop making their stuff so glossy and tight, I might stop actually consuming it.

]]> By: Dane http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12716 Dane Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:48:16 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12716 Yesterday I pictured this more lik the modern version of the ghetto blaster. Like people are saying its a glorified iPod touch, so why not carry it around on my shoulder rockin out to some to some sweet hip hop? Perhaps we could even build a case so large for it to make it look like an authentic ghetto blaster. Anyways, its really useless without actually being able to put some real programs on it for instance as John mentioned daw controls or even using some design programs on it would be nice. Yesterday I pictured this more lik the modern version of the ghetto blaster. Like people are saying its a glorified iPod touch, so why not carry it around on my shoulder rockin out to some to some sweet hip hop? Perhaps we could even build a case so large for it to make it look like an authentic ghetto blaster. Anyways, its really useless without actually being able to put some real programs on it for instance as John mentioned daw controls or even using some design programs on it would be nice.

]]> By: WWW.CREATE-MUSIC.NET » Reactions To Apple’s iPad - What Musicians Are Saying About Apple’s Latest Gadget http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12708 WWW.CREATE-MUSIC.NET » Reactions To Apple’s iPad - What Musicians Are Saying About Apple’s Latest Gadget Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:21:33 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12708 [...] AudioCookbook’s John Keston [...] [...] AudioCookbook’s John Keston [...]

]]> By: 130IQMan http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12702 130IQMan Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:48:08 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12702 Seriously? entry level is $499 for this glorified IPod Touch (that was the phrase the first entered my mind after hearing about it, glad to see others see it from what it is as well). The gorified IPohne version is $650 at entry level. Apple must be hurting for money badly, I would maybe buy this if it were around the $200-$300 mark, I don't see how it could be much different from an IPod Touch/IPhone. Its got the same parts, same features, maybe a few Os upgrade, its just as big as your head and thinner then either of its predecessors. That's not what I would call entirely mobile anymore, in truth you would need a specialized bag to carry it around (can't pocket it that's for sure], unless that distinction is now based on how thin something is compared to the total overall size. Apple has come out with some really ingenious stuff in the past, this is not one of this devices. I do not think it will sell very well. Seriously? entry level is $499 for this glorified IPod Touch (that was the phrase the first entered my mind after hearing about it, glad to see others see it from what it is as well). The gorified IPohne version is $650 at entry level.

Apple must be hurting for money badly, I would maybe buy this if it were around the $200-$300 mark, I don’t see how it could be much different from an IPod Touch/IPhone. Its got the same parts, same features, maybe a few Os upgrade, its just as big as your head and thinner then either of its predecessors.

That’s not what I would call entirely mobile anymore, in truth you would need a specialized bag to carry it around (can’t pocket it that’s for sure], unless that distinction is now based on how thin something is compared to the total overall size.

Apple has come out with some really ingenious stuff in the past, this is not one of this devices.

I do not think it will sell very well.

]]> By: Hmm http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12699 Hmm Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:06:03 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12699 Is it really multi-touch? How many fingers? The HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1), I believe, only supports two fingers at a time, and even that's ambiguous about their position, which is why Google decided to disable multi-touch in android, even though it supports it internally. http://openhandsetmagazine.com/2009/01/the-story-of-multitouch-on-android-g1/ Is it really multi-touch? How many fingers? The HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1), I believe, only supports two fingers at a time, and even that’s ambiguous about their position, which is why Google decided to disable multi-touch in android, even though it supports it internally.

http://openhandsetmagazine.com/2009/01/the-story-of-multitouch-on-android-g1/

]]> By: La http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12697 La Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:14:20 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12697 Sound very interesting though I don't think I will be getting one. If I was to own something big as ipad I might as well carry a touch screen laptop. Sound very interesting though I don’t think I will be getting one. If I was to own something big as ipad I might as well carry a touch screen laptop.

]]> By: John Keston http://audiocookbook.org/audio_news/apple-ipad-glorified-ipod-touch-still-waiting-for-the-ilap/comment-page-1/#comment-12695 John Keston Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:41:10 +0000 http://audiocookbook.org/?p=5513#comment-12695 Patent issues are really frustrating. As a new Android user via the Nexus One, the lack of multi-touch in the OS by default is just silly, especially when it's supported by the hardware. Sure, I can get it in the browser if I root the device and void my warrantee, or download a sub-par aftermarket browser, but it should be integrated into the OS. Call me a socialist, but these general CHI concepts need to be free and available for developers to use as they see fit. Patent issues are really frustrating. As a new Android user via the Nexus One, the lack of multi-touch in the OS by default is just silly, especially when it’s supported by the hardware. Sure, I can get it in the browser if I root the device and void my warrantee, or download a sub-par aftermarket browser, but it should be integrated into the OS. Call me a socialist, but these general CHI concepts need to be free and available for developers to use as they see fit.

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